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Everything Rachael Kirkconnell Revealed About Her Breakup on 'Call Her Daddy'

We listened to the nearly two-hour interview, so you don’t have to. 

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When a Bachelor breakup goes down, fans usually have to piece together clues from cryptic Instagram posts and vague comments on social media. But on Call Her Daddy, there’s no holding back. Rachael Kirkconnell sat down with podcast host Alex Cooper for a nearly two-hour tell-all, finally addressing her split from Bachelor alum Matt James, including dishing on details about the messy way he announced it to the world.

While she was still on a plane, James posted about their breakup on Instagram, using a Bachelor-era photo and framing it as a prayer. By the time she landed, the internet was already ablaze with conversation, and she was blindsided by the whole thing (up in the sky with no Wi-Fi and all). Now, Kirkconnell set the record straight after revealing new details about the breakup she never saw coming.

Rachael Kirkconnell and Matt James' Relationship History

The couple had been together for four years, thanks to meeting on The Bachelor, but the end of their relationship wasn't nearly as amicable or awe-inducing as their early days. Just days before they split, they had been seriously discussing engagement (including talking rings). But during a trip to Tokyo—Kirkconnell's favorite place in the world, by the way—everything unraveled. It started with a disappointing dinner, which left her feeling guilty for letting James down. Instead of reassuring her, he dismissed her emotions and questioned how she would handle real-life challenges if she was this upset over food, as Kirkconnell told the Call Her Daddy host.

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The next morning, things only got worse. James was suddenly snappy, and when Kirkconnell called him out, it turned into a massive argument. That’s when he admitted he still wasn’t sure if he’d ever be ready to propose. After four years, Kirkconnell told him that if he didn’t know by now, he never would. The conversation ended with James deciding to break things off, telling her they had fundamental differences—especially when it came to accountability—and that he didn’t want her to resent him for never proposing.

But for her, the most hurtful part came after. She barely had time to process before James made their breakup public, choosing an Instagram post that felt impersonal and out of touch. When they later spoke, even he admitted it was a weird move. Kirkconnell shared with Cooper that though they’ve kept in occasional contact since then, she has made it very clear that she doesn’t see a future for them anymore. For her, this interview was about finding closure and finally moving on. And what better way to move on than a famous Call Her Daddy tell-all? See the full conversation below.

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